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Title: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 14, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
Dad's first new tractor was a John Deere MC crawler. He sold it when I was a teenager. I think I found his in a town west of here, but it is in very rough condition. New undercarriage and track, but silted in 20 years ago, so would be worse now. The guy wanted too much for it then.
This one came up on a buy, sell, trade last night. Actually three of them. One that ran 4 years ago, one at 95%, and one parts tractor.
The 95% one sold.
This is the one that ran, engine is still loose, priced at $1800, which is about $1000 under what I've been finding.
The parts tractor can be had for $200 and has a pulley attachment, which is worth at least double that! So I'll be looking at them tomorrow and pretty sure I'll get them both.
I'll sell the '46 A that I have, since I never use it, and this dozer tractor will be used once I get it running.
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48363579_2156321351117745_6361454689795440640_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=344f1e9936d3a00283baaaf9c1decb53&oe=5CC28C5F)



Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Whiz-Kid on December 15, 2018, 06:48:58 AM
Looks like a nice project and fun to use.

Mikeee


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Al on December 15, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
 l-kfb I'd like to have that for a day or two here. Didn't Oliver have a tracked unit, OC3 maybe?


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: nuferdog on December 15, 2018, 07:59:13 AM
That will keep you busy.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 15, 2018, 10:58:36 PM
And it's home!
We made a deal for a straight trade: my '46 A for it and the parts tractor, delivered to my place.
Got to looking at the parts tractor, not worth bringing home. Then asked to make sure the engine was loose on this one. Hooked up battery cables to the starter.
CLUNK!
Stuck!
That changes everything!
He backed down to $1000 cash. No longer interested in trading, since he would have to pay me.
He threw in some extra parts (correct seat frame, dozer lift arms).
Stopped at the Palace in Red Cloud for dinner. GeePeRs may recognize that; it was our dinner run one of the times we went to the Geo-Center of the 48 States.
I came home and rearranged the shop. Figured I may have to put something outside, but got it done so the MC will fit in the back where I can work on it and be out of the way so I can still use the hoist.
It just so happened that he was meeting a fellow in Grand Island tonight, so he brought it up yet today. He is brought his skid steer to push it in. We put down plywood as we went to protect the concrete from the cleats.
Now to get to work!
Looking forward to it.

(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48428949_2156321381117742_3583391193301516288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_eui2=AeEMBpDGC2TVZkEPA7_YSoGAklIY676O7b3izIhGrCb7OGFPj7QDvc6SNGfOeOmGIklpTofwu_ZuXYjsYjjR1Xlc0oam_se5i-UY1-XaEh6yOw&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=bbd3ab3e7eba5fb9ec6c5ffc5eb2c410&oe=5C9D054A)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 16, 2018, 09:42:52 AM
HELL of a deal.freind of mine buys and sells small 2 banger JDs. he just sold same Cat for $12,000   was all steamed and repainted too. 


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 16, 2018, 08:20:43 PM
Tinkered with it today.  When we were cleaning out Dad's old shop building last September, we came across a crank for something. Jerry said it was from Dad's MC. I brought that and a track plate home as pieces of nostalgia; most likely the only thing I'd have of the ol' crawler.  Well, today I put it to use to see if I could get the engine loose. I had to cut an angle iron off that someone had welded to the bumper (inset).
(https://simpletractors.com/uploads/monthly_2018_12/10.thumb.jpg.cbc1e5c83723876a337eb532f3428781.jpg)

I put the crank in and pulled.
Nothing moved.
Pulled harder, and it broke loose!
I'm thinking it wasn't "stuck" as in rusted, but actually "frozen" as in water in the cylinder and cold temps.
Pulled again, and it turned some more, then stopped dead. Thinking probably a stuck valve.
Yep! Found the culprit:
(https://simpletractors.com/uploads/monthly_2018_12/12.jpg.91df9219e7f0b38d976a1eeb214c0525.jpg)

When I put the valve cover & tools on the tracks, it hit me that I had seen this view before; about 50 years ago when Dad was working on his in his shop.
(https://simpletractors.com/uploads/monthly_2018_12/14.jpg.22c84d87d4fa98144e33d72bcb01977e.jpg)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 17, 2018, 07:33:36 AM
get it running,  rent a steamer,clean it off..hand sand it. repaint it..walla  $6000 US .   t_up)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 17, 2018, 10:36:59 PM
get it running,  rent a steamer,clean it off..hand sand it. repaint it..walla  $6000 US .   t_up)
It would have to have new track pads to get that kind of money, and those would run me $2700+.
But then again, I bought it to keep, not sell.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 18, 2018, 07:32:24 AM
I see someones already updated it to 12volt.  they start easier that way.keeping it is ok..but you cant use it without wrecking the Cement ..a guy here bolted rubber pads to each pad,keeps it inside like you do..runs it out to push snow  living in town.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 18, 2018, 07:40:46 AM
l-kfb I'd like to have that for a day or two here. Didn't Oliver have a tracked unit, OC3 maybe?

I had a 1930s Oliver Cleat trac in Barrhead.bought it to clean the barn and corral. was neat little thing.RCMP neighbor offered me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than I had in it.. he painted it up and takes it to farm shows.

                                                                      (https://i.imgur.com/5H9laiU.jpg)

                                                                       



Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Al on December 18, 2018, 08:49:01 AM
That's the one, it was used by a friend for light farm work,in the spring he hauled the sap tank in his sugar bush, neat machine. Redoing old farm equipment to like new ( or better ) and taking them to shows and parades is a pretty conman thing here. If I didn't use my I-140 Farmall for regular work that would be a fun project, shine it up nice and retire it :)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 18, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
but you cant use it without wrecking the Cement

I have 4 pieces of plywood cut 12" wide to put under the tracks to protect the cement. Moved them as we backed it in.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Wingsconsin on December 19, 2018, 07:51:54 AM
Just a thought ---

Do you really NEED that ? Will you USE it ?
Could that money have been spent on a TRIP on that NEW-TO-YOU Goldwing ?
You will never leave Nebraska again if you don't plan to do so...

Would love to see you guys at an event that you didn't have to PLAN and WORK  --

With Love & respect  ;)



Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: iwing on December 19, 2018, 09:44:16 AM
Now donít be a sour puss Carl. Some people like collecting things and having fun on the home front in their own way. Different stokes for different folks. Look at UltraSteve no more bike but a ton of hobbies on his home turf. If I had land I really could get in to that.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 19, 2018, 01:05:27 PM
Carls right..   so have the 2019 GPR at Carls place ?   ;D


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: FreeW1ll1e on December 19, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
We move the traveling picnic to a new place every year!


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Wingsconsin on December 19, 2018, 01:39:14 PM
Carls right..   so have the 2018 GPR at Carls place ?   ;D

2018 GPR was at Hicks - I was there -



Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 19, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
mean next yr.. ;D


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 19, 2018, 01:53:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHA5EFrqZuo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHA5EFrqZuo)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Wingsconsin on December 19, 2018, 03:31:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWigii9cJxc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWigii9cJxc)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 19, 2018, 06:02:10 PM
Just a thought ---

Do you really NEED that ? Will you USE it ?
Could that money have been spent on a TRIP on that NEW-TO-YOU Goldwing ?
You will never leave Nebraska again if you don't plan to do so...

Would love to see you guys at an event that you didn't have to PLAN and WORK  --

With Love & respect  ;)



Actually, yes, I will use it. I need to move a lot of dirt around in our yard, and this will be the ticket.
The '46 I've had all these years only gets moved once a year. I will be selling it.

And GPR has been so much easier now that some locals have pitched in and help set up and tear down. We've been running 25 - 30, which is a real nice size.

Retirement is coming up, so who knows where we'll show up? ;)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 19, 2018, 06:03:03 PM
2018 GPR was at Hicks - I was there -

And it was great seeing you again!


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: MickeyNew on December 20, 2018, 07:20:54 PM
I want to know about the tractor.  This thread has been hijacked.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 20, 2018, 10:03:40 PM
I want to know about the tractor.  This thread has been hijacked.

You can follow the progress on my FB album; it is public.
https://www.facebook.com/gary.hickman.54/media_set?set=a.2156321251117755&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/gary.hickman.54/media_set?set=a.2156321251117755&type=3)

I'll be pulling the head off Saturday.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 22, 2018, 11:22:33 PM
And got it loose!!
Pulled the head off the MC this morning. Both exhaust valves are stuck tight. One stuck down, but not hitting the piston as I thought was the cause of the engine not turning. It must have been stuck when he cranked it 4 months ago though, as the pushrod was bent.
The intakes came right out.
Still could not turn the engine. Messed around with trying to move it in gear with the pickup, but the slick concrete in the shop just had the pickup spinning its tires!

Looked at the cylinders again, realized the rust in #1 may keep me from turning it. Took a pipe wrench on the front shaft and turned it backwards with no problem. Ran the piston to the bottom, then took my cylinder hone and cleaned up the cylinder. Grabbed the crank, and it spins nicely! I also honed #2 while I was at it.

https://www.facebook.com/gary.hickman.54/videos/2166096786806868/ (https://www.facebook.com/gary.hickman.54/videos/2166096786806868/)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 23, 2018, 09:53:15 AM
I knew you could do it. free up those valves.clean head gaskets and Vroom.  dont forget to use Premium gas with some lead additive .
 


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 23, 2018, 08:11:53 PM
I knew you could do it. free up those valves.clean head gaskets and Vroom.  domt foget to use Premium gas with some lead additive .
 

Ken, what is your fetish with premium gas? It does no good to use it if the engine was not designed for it, and this certainly is not a high compression engine.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: ChiefBob on December 24, 2018, 05:22:15 AM
I agree Hick. I had a friend that always used premium in his Wing because his Wing deserved the best. He related high price with being best. I told him once or twice that he was throwing his money way but he kept on.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 24, 2018, 05:29:49 AM
no fetish.  our regular gas has that ethanol crap added to it and 87 octane.  some premiuims up here don't have that crap in it so carberators don't get the green gunk buildup.  I have cleaned hundreds of small engine carbs that don't get used much and are all plugged with that green crap. my own small motors always start every time and use premium gas ..example   the 1989 Honda Mower and snowblower and rototiller still have original carb guts.sparkplugs,  they start 2 pulls evertime. customers bring me 2 yr old mowers,blowers,tillers that don't run due to regular gas.
and 2 cycle oil doesn't stay mixed with ethanol blended gas. it does with non eth Premium.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Al on December 24, 2018, 06:45:41 AM
Good point Ken, I use the crap gas because it's darn near impossible to find gas without ethanol here, I just double triple up on Stabil, that's been working for me.  Ethanol the farmers welfare crop heavily subsidized for a product that's not worth the money, I don't use it in my truck and it's an E-85 designed use system.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: ChiefBob on December 24, 2018, 11:46:13 AM
I wish they would quit with the ethanol but it hasn't caused me any problems except one. I had to replace the fuel lines in my chainsaw because they had become brittle and broke, what a PITA.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Cherryman on December 24, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
I bought a Stihl leaf blower 2 yrs ago and the dealer told me to use ONLY recreational gas in it.   I guess that is non-ethanol; also called marine gas, I think.  Only one station in town that sells it.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 24, 2018, 10:10:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHA5EFrqZuo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHA5EFrqZuo)
My 1951 is 67 years old. The 430 was two generations after. So at the very most, it would be 60 years old.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on December 25, 2018, 07:55:59 AM
Merry Christmas Hick.    you said--We can buy non-ethanol regular here without going to the Premium grade.

that's why I use premium.because we CANT buy that kind of gas here.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 25, 2018, 09:28:22 AM
Something has happened since I found this, brought it home, and started working on it, a year after Dad passed away.
At times I find myself wanting to tell him the progress I'm making, then realize that I cannot.
This morning, showing Shari around the tractor, I felt a strong wave of nostalgia, remembering Dad working on his, and I felt a strong a connection with Dad. 
So this will be more than just another tractor in my collection; it will be part of my roots, even if it is not the actual tractor he had.
Merry Christmas to all. 


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: iwing on December 26, 2018, 06:42:48 PM
He knows.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Wingsconsin on December 27, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
Something has happened since I found this, brought it home, and started working on it, a year after Dad passed away.
At times I find myself wanting to tell him the progress I'm making, then realize that I cannot.
This morning, showing Shari around the tractor, I felt a strong wave of nostalgia, remembering Dad working on his, and I felt a strong a connection with Dad. 
So this will be more than just another tractor in my collection; it will be part of my roots, even if it is not the actual tractor he had.
Merry Christmas to all. 

Now this is a good reason to buy it.  ;)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 29, 2018, 12:27:37 AM
He knows.
l-kfb


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on December 29, 2018, 12:28:14 AM
Now this is a good reason to buy it.  ;)
l-kfb


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on January 06, 2019, 05:15:39 AM
This model tractor has the brake pedal shaft running through the clutch pedal shaft. And a common problem is the clutch shaft sticking to the brake shaft. A simple fix in design to allow it to be greased would have stopped the problem, but Deere did not think of it.
This tractor has the shafts stuck together. To get to the shaft to loosen it requires some slight disassembly . . .
Started off by trying to pull the engine & center tunnel casting as one unit. Problem was, I could not get both legs of the cherry picker between the tracks, so I folded one leg up. That didn't work so good! Got it split apart, and was able to get a the shaft I needed to work on. But not easily, so decided it would be best to get it the tunnel all the way out. 2 hours after I started I was working to reattach the tunnel (top bolts only) so I could pull the engine and tunnel separately.
Got the engine out:
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50236674_2187575901325623_743976481281015808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=d2f0836c1641b7092cbaf0df72cfac6d&oe=5C8C0D89)

Took the dash & fuel tank off of the tunnel casting:
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49454406_2187575907992289_4092460910843527168_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=f75add2af7e4817af69e2f0a40bb614e&oe=5CD35AD7)

Here is the tunnel casting standing on the bell housing end so I can work on the stuck shaft:
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49549314_2187575997992280_5288831975358988288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=4ffdccb772365ab0dfdb8791e2defe81&oe=5C8BC4AB)

Here is the shaft in question. It has to come out the left side; the lever on the left runs the left brake. The lever inside runs the clutch, and the stub shaft fitting over the brake shaft is what is stuck.
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50042792_2187576034658943_5065564547222339584_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=a5e75c0a7c40f1ee2005ae82c5c7393a&oe=5C8D0DAE)

And the tractor now looks like this:
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49769299_2187575954658951_4812748929500184576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=4bc05507db16d7ac3b66d9aa4fa9ff67&oe=5C8CC286)

Interestingly enough, these set-backs are not bothering me at all, and you all know how things like this upset me. I think it is because I have no set time frame to get this done, and I do love the work.
As for the shaft replacement, once I get it unstuck or replaced, I WILL drill the brake shaft for grease passages and a zerk!


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on January 06, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
Like Trudy says..at least I know where your at !   and Shari can say the same.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: MickeyNew on January 06, 2019, 02:33:33 PM
I am enjoying following the story.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on January 12, 2019, 04:11:54 PM
Finally! Since my left arm is injured, I strapped the tunnel to the dozer frame so I could do the heavy work with my good arm. Got everything apart, shined up, and . . .
Clutch shaft won't slip over the brake shaft easily. Somehow the brake shaft got bowed. Press time, got it straightened out.
The replacement clutch pedal came today. Looks like it has been painted several times, once with a brush! IOW: Crappy!
Looked my weld over good, decided it is solid, and so will use my pedal, matches better! But when welding mine, the halves shifted so the keyway was wider than original. Found a key that would fit, and widened the slot in the shaft plus ground a tiny bit off the key to fit. Tightened everything up on the bench, looks good!
I need to get a clutch bushing before I put it all back together.
I'm also going to drill back into the brake shaft from the left side, tap for a grease fitting, then across so the clutch shaft can be greased.
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50283599_2198009493615597_2944778055157022720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=83bc8ff83bd532afc42661c16fb145ae&oe=5C8C35C0)

I see that I had not posted a picture of the welded pedal. Broke it trying to get things loose. I was unsure if I could weld it. It's not because it is cast iron, it is because it broke in the keyway. I did manage to weld the pedal, and happy the way it turned out. Used Nickel-Free cast rod. Harder to weld with, but a stronger weld and you don't have to pre-heat the casting. I needed a shaft the right size, but could not find one. The only thing I had was a very thinwall aluminum pipe. And a large bolt that was almost the right size. The pipe slid over the bolt with a tight fit, so that worked out real good!
It ain't the purdiest weld, but I'm confident it will do.
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49196593_2181661978583682_3136326625826701312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=ff85554c0e6d3046123c1ac0235904eb&oe=5CD4A7E2)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on January 12, 2019, 05:09:08 PM
did your birds or chicken  get out of the house and end up in the garage? -?-  ya ya I know.   its hard to weld that chit.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on January 12, 2019, 11:25:54 PM
did your birds or chicken  get out of the house and end up in the garage? -?-  ya ya I know.   its hard to weld that chit.

LOL!
What you don't see in that picture is the 3 times I ground back into the "V" to re-weld it. Thus I'm confident it is solid.


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on January 13, 2019, 08:43:43 AM
also I see why those old JDs run so rough.  theres 2 spark plug wires missing ? ;D

                                                     (https://i.imgur.com/2RaslSZ.jpg)


              ya ya   I know... #ya^h 'hs<
                                                       


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on January 14, 2019, 09:59:01 PM
BTW: Does anyone know the firing order of a 1951 two-cylinder John Deere?
 :) :) :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Goofyfixer on January 15, 2019, 06:25:17 AM
BTW: Does anyone know the firing order of a 1951 two-cylinder John Deere?
 :) :) :) :) :) :)

I'm going waaaaay out on a limb and guessing "1-2"????


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on January 15, 2019, 07:29:02 AM
could be 2-1 too ? -?- :)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on January 15, 2019, 06:25:31 PM
could be 2-1 too ? -?- :)

NOPE!
Cylinder #1 fires, then cylinder #2. Then both coast through the exhaust cycles before firing again.
So the POP POP POP we hear is actually BOTH firing one right after the other so it sounds like one.
This MC runs at 1650 RPM, the horizontals run at 1250. So this does not have the characteristic Johnny Popper sound.
http://youtu.be/dhqkP1NF-xI (http://youtu.be/dhqkP1NF-xI)


Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: Hick on January 19, 2019, 10:06:04 PM
Got the dozer sub-frame off today. This will make putting the tunnel and engine back in a lot easier. 
Yes, I have a torn tendon in my left arm, and I WAS babying it. It is amazing how much one can get done one-handed with air tools, dollies, jacks, and a cherry picker!

(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50844684_2208092969273916_5433943922265030656_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeGi1lSaUF2-k6txyMZdhAv2qb1k9k6oa6vo3oFHyT4oAvSORHamq6LHvbCWbyVWqNkLpDL49VzlDdpqDCdkFkoJxs0Qwfw7QKSFfdHO6PVvPw&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=da08edd8a07dd222647ccdaf0da7440a&oe=5CC9518F)

Got it rolled out from under the tractor, then picked one side up with cherry picker and stood it beside the blade. My goal is to drill new holes in the frame to move it back 8" so it is not sticking out front so much. May even drill a set 12" back in case I have the clearance. I'm working on memory of those measurements.

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Title: Re: 99% sure this will be coming home with me
Post by: kenvb on January 20, 2019, 08:18:36 AM
that's a pile O parts. taking pictures? -?-