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Title: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: MickeyNew on July 31, 2019, 06:42:20 PM
Ken has been in pain the last day or so.  He thought it was his back.  He went to the doctor today.  He had had a mini stroke.  His carotid artery is 80% blocked and his doctor has known about.  Did not want to do surgery.  This new cardiologist he saw today is going to arrange it.  Meanwhile he is on lots of blood thinners. 

Keep him and Trudy in your thoughts and prayers.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on July 31, 2019, 08:00:36 PM
thanks Pat,  look at all the meds now. blood thinners.pain killers and blood pressure and baby assburns

                                                                    (https://i.imgur.com/7CDdvJc.jpg)

                                                           


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Hick on July 31, 2019, 08:44:18 PM
Take care of yourself, Big Brother!!!


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 01, 2019, 01:09:32 AM
All the best Ken.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: chief james on August 01, 2019, 02:43:55 AM
Take care of yourself Ken.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: John Anderson on August 01, 2019, 04:03:24 AM
I'm sure you will beat it Ken. Just listen to the docs and do as you are told and you will back to your career scavenging in no time.  All the best to both.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: ChiefBob on August 01, 2019, 04:13:22 AM
Welcome to old age. Take care of yourself and if what one doctor tells you doesn't sound right, ask another.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Whiz-Kid on August 01, 2019, 06:13:42 AM
Good luck Ken. Prayers for a good out come sent from Colorado.


Mikeee


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: nuferdog on August 01, 2019, 08:50:20 AM
Best wishes, tKe care of youself and listen to the Doctor


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 01, 2019, 09:43:17 AM
The best to you Ken follow docs orders and you should be good to go.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 01, 2019, 12:45:46 PM
this new young doc is upset at my old Doc for not arranging the surgery 2 yrs ago when it was found. this is second stroke.  Tuesday is MRI and C Scan. nothing sooner I said.no your lucky got you in this soon?   Free medicare ,yup get what we pay for I guess..


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 01, 2019, 02:07:03 PM
this new young doc is upset at my old Doc for not arranging the surgery 2 yrs ago when it was found. this is second stroke.  Tuesday is MRI and C Scan. nothing sooner I said.no your lucky got you in this soon?   Free medicare ,yup get what we pay for I guess..

I assume you’re getting a blood work up done too? Checking  triglyceride  & glucose & stuff like that?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: John Anderson on August 01, 2019, 03:50:48 PM
this new young doc is upset at my old Doc for not arranging the surgery 2 yrs ago when it was found. this is second stroke.  Tuesday is MRI and C Scan. nothing sooner I said.no your lucky got you in this soon?   Free medicare ,yup get what we pay for I guess..


Quityerbitchin. You are damn lucky you are getting an MRI and a CT scan within a week.  Out here typical wait times for a diagnosis MRI unless you are on death's door is about 2 - 3 months as they are so in demand.  Unlike the states we don't have the mobile units travelling from hospital to hospital raking in the dough doing for profit MRI's in the parking lots. You can thank your lucky stars you are getting the health care you got living way up there in the boonies.  I know I do and I would not want it any other way. 


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Cherrie on August 01, 2019, 04:43:15 PM
Take care Ken, your health is nothing to fool with.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 01, 2019, 05:50:15 PM
blood sugar is 5.5     ;D  blood pressure  135-100  lowest in years. lost 20 lbs in last yr..180 now.  going to live as old as  Noah.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 01, 2019, 06:13:19 PM
5.5 is great for your A1C. All your stuff sounds good.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 02, 2019, 07:47:22 AM
blood sugar is 5.5     ;D  blood pressure  135-100  lowest in years. lost 20 lbs in last yr..180 now.  going to live as old as  Noah.


A diastolic pressure of 100 is life threatening.  Seriously, you need to work with your doctor(s) to get that down to 80 or below.  Just saying ...


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 02, 2019, 07:55:07 AM
blood sugar is 5.5     ;D  blood pressure  135-100  lowest in years. lost 20 lbs in last yr..180 now.  going to live as old as  Noah.


A diastolic pressure of 100 is life threatening.  Seriously, you need to work with your doctor(s) to get that down to 80 or below.  Just saying ...
that's lowest its been in my life. usually its 155 over 120         my mother died at 85  with blood pressure was high too. and didn't died of heart issues either!


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 02, 2019, 09:01:06 AM

that's lowest its been in my life. usually its 155 over 120         my mother died at 85  with blood pressure was high too. and didn't died of heart issues either!

Do you take your BP at home?  or just in the doctor's office.  I ask because if it is the latter, you could be having what is known as White Coat Syndrome (WCS).  It is real and I've had it for 40 years.  In a doctor's office, a typical reading for me is 200/105.  At home, relaxed, my BP runs 130/70.

If you don't take your BP at home, I suggest you start doing so.  
I just don't believe your diastolic readings reported by you are accurate.  Something is amiss and it very likely could be WCS.

Buy a good automatic electronic cuff.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 02, 2019, 11:07:43 AM

that's lowest its been in my life. usually its 155 over 120         my mother died at 85  with blood pressure was high too. and didn't died of heart issues either!

Do you take your BP at home?  or just in the doctor's office.  I ask because if it is the latter, you could be having what is known as White Coat Syndrome (WCS).  It is real and I've had it for 40 years.  In a doctor's office, a typical reading for me is 200/105.  At home, relaxed, my BP runs 130/70.

If you don't take your BP at home, I suggest you start doing so.  
I just don't believe your diastolic readings reported by you are accurate.  Something is amiss and it very likely could be WCS.

Buy a good automatic electronic cuff.

I need to get a meter to check BP at home. I have WCS. They'll check it when I first get there and then check it before I leave and the second check is always better.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: ChiefBob on August 02, 2019, 12:08:44 PM
I have one at home and my Cardiologist has me checking it twice a day and logging it. First one in when I get up and before meds or coffee and the second is later in the day and a note as to what I was doing at the time. The log consists of Date, Time, BP, Pulse & Note. The log is taken to my next appointment. This isn't forever. He wants this because he changed my meds due to high BP.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 02, 2019, 04:37:48 PM

I need to get a meter to check BP at home. I have WCS. They'll check it when I first get there and then check it before I leave and the second check is always better.

There are all kinds for sale, don't skip, get a good one.  In fact, let me do a Consumer Report check for you since I pay for their service.

Highest rated is the Omron 10 Series BP786N

https://www.amazon.com/Omron-BP786-Pressure-Monitor-Bluetooth/dp/B00T83RDGO/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Omron+10+Series+BP786N&qid=1564788931&s=gateway&sr=8-5 (https://www.amazon.com/Omron-BP786-Pressure-Monitor-Bluetooth/dp/B00T83RDGO/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Omron+10+Series+BP786N&qid=1564788931&s=gateway&sr=8-5)

Another highly rated one
Omron Evolv BP7000


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: ChiefBob on August 02, 2019, 05:25:55 PM
Iv'e been using the Omron BP710 for several years.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 02, 2019, 08:31:35 PM
my retired Doc  gave me this when I last saw him. he said the hospital is getting new ones not as good as this.

here is my pressure as of 9.29 Aug 2-19    better than usual for me.   I cut my hand today and it bled like crazy. must be due to the blood thinner im taking.

                                                        (https://i.imgur.com/WIv5V2I.jpg)


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 03, 2019, 08:36:45 AM
Do you take your BP more than once in a sitting?  You should take it several times to see if it gets better with each reading.  If so, you definitely have WCS. 

I read once some advice from an expert on BP -- never take a BP measurement until you have been sitting relaxed for at least 15 mins.  Hard to do in a doctors office, but easy to do at home.



Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: ChiefBob on August 03, 2019, 09:44:41 AM
Ken, use fine ground black pepper to stop the bleeding. It won't sting.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 03, 2019, 10:55:17 AM
thanks Bob.never heard of that before. I use those stopstics..that they use on boxers.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: brian c on August 04, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
Keeping you in our thoughts, Ken.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 04, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
look at this. never been this low in years     (https://i.imgur.com/d54AkPy.jpg)


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 05, 2019, 04:19:33 AM
So did you find some whacked weed to chill the heart beats?  :)


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 05, 2019, 04:35:21 AM
Ken has been in pain the last day or so.  He thought it was his back.  He went to the doctor today.  He had had a mini stroke.  His carotid artery is 80% blocked and his doctor has known about.  Did not want to do surgery.  This new cardiologist he saw today is going to arrange it.  Meanwhile he is on lots of blood thinners. 

Keep him and Trudy in your thoughts and prayers.

That 80% is is a key, what reason for no  action by the doctors to clear the blockage?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 05, 2019, 05:06:52 PM
Al.  my Doc say a part of the blockage could go into my heart while there taking it out.50-50- chance of survival..but the new doc says..its a piece of cake..not to worry?   who do ya believe ?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 05, 2019, 05:38:42 PM
Al.  my Doc say a part of the blockage could go into my heart while there taking it out.50-50- chance of survival..but the new doc says..its a piece of cake..not to worry?   who do ya believe ?

Well a 3rd opinion might be nice but with the advances made in technology and heart procedures I'd go for it. If you were stateside I'd send you to Cleveland Clinic, they did wonders for my brother, gave him 8 more years after his big attack.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 05, 2019, 07:08:26 PM
ultra sound 8.30am  Tuesday      mri  wednsday 200 kms away 9 am

bp is higher tonight   worked all day at horseladys place, had supper there.  organized her late fathers shop..real mess.

                                                               (https://i.imgur.com/le2RwVp.jpg)


                                                                         


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 06, 2019, 04:19:20 AM
Not good Ken not good, prayers for you and I hope the find something in your test that they can use to help you. Just an after thought, IF they put you on some kind of blood thinners your going to have to be real careful in the shop and it's not just the cutting aspect but sever bruising can and will occur and that's not something to ignore. Good luck.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 06, 2019, 04:29:41 AM
At hypertension stage 1 your systolic value is between 140 – 159 mmHg and your diastolic value is between 90 – 99 mmHg. This is the classification set by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

Hypertension stage 1 is the lowest form of high blood pressure. You will be able to regulate your blood pressure with sports and a well-balanced diet most likely.

Three foods to avoid.

https://1md.org/lp/is-this-epidemic-damaging-your-body-aw-IBS?tr=AmaOr&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIssOk4JHu4wIVCtzACh3PiAwsEAEYASAAEgKlYfD_BwE


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 06, 2019, 06:40:18 AM
Not good Ken not good, prayers for you and I hope the find something in your test that they can use to help you. Just an after thought, IF they put you on some kind of blood thinners your going to have to be real careful in the shop and it's not just the cutting aspect but sever bruising can and will occur and that's not something to ignore. Good luck.

I know that.but I have to make extra money when I can. our pension was cut by $210 month each, Trudeau cut all seniors and vets pension ?  we do get CPP  too  that's $240 a month too  try to live on $840 a month is tough.

                                                                                  


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 06, 2019, 06:47:44 AM
Sorry to hear that Ken, I noticed the Guaranteed Income, is that something that was withheld from your wages whether you wanted it to be withheld like our Social Security System?  Yes a pay cut of any kind hurts theirs or yours  :(


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: MickeyNew on August 06, 2019, 08:23:20 AM
Free healthcare is going to kill Ken.  He went for an ultrasound today.  They didn't have him down for an appointment that his Dr made for him and they can't work him in.  In the meantime he thinks he may have had another stroke.  His Dr is out of town for a month.  I told him to get to the ER.  Sigh.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 06, 2019, 08:26:40 AM
Free healthcare is going to kill Ken.  He went for an ultrasound today.  They didn't have him down for an appointment that his Dr made for him and they can't work him in.  In the meantime he thinks he may have had another stroke.  His Dr is out of town for a month.  I told him to get to the ER.  Sigh.

Wow that’s not good. I use “ My Chart”  where I can see test results, monitor appointments that they populate from within the system, request refills, and link other medical networks I’m using. I really like that.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Wingsconsin on August 06, 2019, 09:08:00 AM
Free healthcare is going to kill Ken.  He went for an ultrasound today.  They didn't have him down for an appointment that his Dr made for him and they can't work him in.  In the meantime he thinks he may have had another stroke.  His Dr is out of town for a month.  I told him to get to the ER.  Sigh.

YEA ! Let's get some of that ..  ::)

Best wishes Ken - keep fightin'


One time when I went to the Dr.s and the nurse took my BP
When she was finished she said .." You pressure is a little high for a man your age"
I responded ...." I promise that next time I come in ...I will be older..." ;)


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: MickeyNew on August 06, 2019, 08:06:38 PM
I just talked to Ken.  He went to the wrong facility this morning for the ultrasound.  It is rescheduled for Friday.  Wednesday is the CT scan 200 miles away.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 07, 2019, 06:04:04 AM
He went to the wrong facility this morning for the ultrasound. 

Does he know how to use a GPS?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 07, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
went for C scan and Ultra sound this morning 200  miles away.   lady didn't talk about the c SCAN.  But the lady that did the Ultrasound did say my Carotid Artery went from 80 % plugged to 48 %  ..  in 2 yrs?  talk to your Doctor she says.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 07, 2019, 04:04:51 PM
went for C scan and Ultra sound this morning 200  miles away.   lady didn't talk about the c SCAN.  But the lady that did the Ultrasound did say my Carotid Artery went from 80 % plugged to 48 %  ..  in 2 yrs?  talk to your Doctor she says.

I thought your ultrasound was postponed until this Friday?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 08, 2019, 06:28:39 AM
Doc office got me in right away. im not arguing. takes so long to see these people .


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: MickeyNew on August 08, 2019, 09:11:45 AM
Report from Ken:

blood pressure in right foot half of what it should be. 3/4 in left foot. have 2 % feeling left in right foot and 55 in left.  she recommends surgery?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 08, 2019, 07:03:05 PM
pooped  helped put a  set of brakes and shocks and a leveling kit  in sons new to him 05 Chev and brakes in  my Honda quad.

                                                                        (https://i.imgur.com/eQvditF.jpg)


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 09, 2019, 05:45:31 AM
Depending on how long it was from when you stopped working until you took this reading it would be in the Hypertension stage. A while back before my pacemaker installation I had the opposite problem, BP would drop and heart rate would climb, I got the docs to listen by taking a record of my activities with matching BP along with me to my appointments. 


Title: Re: Ken Vanderburg
Post by: kenvb on August 09, 2019, 06:23:01 AM
Al.  usually take it few hours after stop working .


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 09, 2019, 11:40:40 AM
Grab the chance to get things fixed and good luck.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 09, 2019, 07:50:43 PM
(https://imgur.com/dAgUfHN)


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 13, 2019, 05:22:00 PM
Doc appoint today.  he ordered more blood tests and had some X rays on leg& foot ..but is pretty sure the pain im feeling is lack o blood to right side from the stroke. going to make appoint with Nuerloligist again? had one 2 yrs ago after first stroke. that didn't accomplich   buger all either.  -?-   


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: JWnWyoming on August 15, 2019, 05:19:49 PM
I pray for success Ken, We'll get you well and go terrorize Gary together.   


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 15, 2019, 05:44:33 PM
now the Doc wants me to see a Nuroligist?  that could take a while.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: MickeyNew on August 19, 2019, 09:41:20 AM
News from Ken this morning:

Hospital again. Couldn't walk this morning.  XRays. on lower back now. this new young Doc says its all from that car accident 12 yrs ago in Barrhead. pinched nerve?


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 19, 2019, 10:00:39 AM
Not good but maybe new eyes will get him help.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 19, 2019, 11:19:04 AM
I'm finding out pinched nerves can make you miserable.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: ChiefBob on August 19, 2019, 02:59:08 PM
Back in 1981, I got whiplash from being rear-ended in our car. 10 years later I was in so much pain I had to have surgery for a ruptured disc and have it fused. Now I have to see about my right hand going numb.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 19, 2019, 02:59:43 PM
It's when they tell you they can fix it but the cure may be as bad or worse than the cure  p_uddles p_uddles.  You're young, nerves regenerate a lot better for the younger.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: iwing on August 19, 2019, 03:13:46 PM
Back in 1981, I got whiplash from being rear-ended in our car. 10 years later I was in so much pain I had to have surgery for a ruptured disc and have it fused. Now I have to see about my right hand going numb.

Sounds like carpool tunnel. EMG test for you.  )-9(


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 20, 2019, 08:11:52 AM
I heard that some one said these are our Golden Years ?   like to smack that person.

were off to see another Bank repo place in the country.  In the bush they should say.  a couple we knew built this in the 70s. its totally Off Grid.self sustaining. then he died amd she sold it about 10 yrs ago to the neighbor. it was 160 acre piece. neighbor subdivided it to 12 acres now.and resold it 6 yrs ago.this guy walked away from it yr ago. my brothers real estate firm had had the listing for past yr with no bites. they were asking $320,000   now down to $250,000   brothers thinks maybe $200,000 will take it.  taking my cordless drill and small bit along to drill into bottom logs. after 40 yrs..they could be rotten and if so. place isn't worth that either. show you more pics later

  I took these few weeks ago when we peaked in the driveway.  theres 100 yard of bush between it and road. very quiet.

                                                                          (https://i.imgur.com/BWpcFmd.jpg)

                                                                             (https://i.imgur.com/Ht9Ae3E.jpg)  water boiler shed

                                                                       


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: BargingFool on August 20, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
check for mold too -- the black toxic mold.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: Al on August 20, 2019, 02:16:15 PM
Ken IMHO with health problems that looks like a pretty big bite to chew on, more so being off grid no ezze pezze  just walk in and settle down deal. If the logs / frames are punky it will be a big job replacing them. Good luck on your choice.


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 20, 2019, 04:46:06 PM
.real estate person cancelled on us,try tomorrow he said


Title: Re: Ken Vanderberg
Post by: kenvb on August 20, 2019, 08:43:28 PM
https://www.remax.ca/ab/whitecourt-rural-real-estate/13526-township-rd-575-wp_id237877653-lst (https://www.remax.ca/ab/whitecourt-rural-real-estate/13526-township-rd-575-wp_id237877653-lst)